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Harold's avatar

Okay, but not great. How can someone who is evidently not well-read in the topics of feudalism and European history claim that liberal democracy is, in the Churchillian mode, the "best of a bad bunch"? Of course, some feudal states were better than others (Pre-Revolutionary France and Russia were particularly awful), but there's a reason symphonies and frescoes were produced back then, while we get pop music and DeviantArt. Now, I also agree that thinkers like Yarvin and Hoppe and Rand fundamentally misconstrue the universe in many ways, and I tend to take issue with the AnCap movement on a purely spiritual level (the modern movement can be attributed to the result of a lot of lonesome autistic people who don't understand human beings trying to reconcile their rejection from mainstream society with a supposed ability to parse reality at a deeper level than normies - Moldbug says as much); but this isn't so much a polemic as it is an offhand dismissal, a "look at these antiquated old dinosaurs and their fuddy-duddy ideas". Sorry, but that line of attack just doesn't hold water anymore.

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Found this while tumbling down a Reddit rabbit hole and I’ve got to say......worth the detour.

I read the original “Why Liberalism Always Leads to Race Communism” after seeing this, and (if I’m honest) I was nodding along at first. It’s persuasive in that confident, footnote-heavy way tapping into that nagging feeling that something’s gone off in the world (and something deffo has gone off tbf). But this response is what actually made me pause. It doesn’t just argue back, it zooms out and asks the real question: if you didn’t know where you’d land in the pecking order, would you still want to defend a system where the ultra wealthy and people born into positions of power dominate? (deep)

I have to admit this is denser than my usual Reddit fare, but surprisingly easy to sit with. The Rawls thought experiment brought me straight back to A-level philosophy. And the bit about the workhouses…grim but spot on. Really cut through the romanticism and made it clear that “order” back then usually meant punishment for being poor. It reframed the whole original essay as less about stability and more about control!

Did anyone else get halfway through the original thinking “hmm, fair enough”... before realising they were being sold Downton Abbey with a side of authoritarianism?

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